tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post4970366236603225225..comments2024-03-27T14:57:37.031+05:30Comments on Jabberwock: A tribute - of sorts - to DharmendraJabberwockhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10210195396120573794noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-22377215355668302842021-01-07T17:58:01.423+05:302021-01-07T17:58:01.423+05:30lovely post.... not only because Dharmendra is my ...lovely post.... not only because Dharmendra is my all time fav actor but simply because it is so well written. I also enjoyed readings the comments.<br /><br />I so wish he had not fallen into the trap and avoided the atrocious C grade movies. What a blemish in his otherwise such an illustrious career.<br /><br />I get very happy to see his huge fan following on various social media platforms. I used to think that I am amongst the minority, but clearly I was wrong and am so happy about it.<br /><br />I am glad to see a mention of Hathyar. You are right that it is grossly under seen movie. JP Dutta in his earlier days was such an amazing film maker. Infact I don't see a mention of Ghulami on your post or any of the comments. To me Dharmendra was very good in this JP Dutta's debut.Prakash Dadlanihttp://scenekyahaisite.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-40121332545678080442011-11-07T19:24:23.262+05:302011-11-07T19:24:23.262+05:30Sina: I did write this long post on Satyakam, in c...Sina: I did write <a href="http://jaiarjun.blogspot.com/2011/04/mat-jaane-bhi-do-yaar-idealism-and-self.html" rel="nofollow">this</a> long post on <i>Satyakam</i>, in case you're interested.Jabberwockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10210195396120573794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1414645260898731532011-11-07T18:14:54.849+05:302011-11-07T18:14:54.849+05:30Good article. Could have been better with mention ...Good article. Could have been better with mention of Anupama / Satyakam /Dost / & many more BW movies.Sinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13840062988017317854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-48137410979495025572011-07-03T00:14:46.026+05:302011-07-03T00:14:46.026+05:30Sirji, I agree with everything you have written, e...Sirji, I agree with everything you have written, except one line -<br />" Well, yes, Timothy, got that, profound observation"<br /><br />Sirji, why Timothy ? Who is this Timothy ? How does Timothy, an angrez, appear in a piece on Dharmendra and Sanjeev Kumar, doyens of Hindi cinema ? <br /><br />Can't you say "Well, yes, Tarun" or say "Well, yes, Tushar", or even "Well, yes, Tara" ?<br /><br />If we don't use hindi monikers even in an article about hindi cinema, then who will ? I must confess, I am but a recent convert to this mode of thinking. I was perusing some adult fiction where this lady Indu is having an affair in her Mumbai flat with the servant boy Ishaan while her husband Indrajit is slogging away for Infosys. So Ishaan is behind Indu and Indu says "Yes fuck me Ishaan! Harder harder fuck me harder! Fuck me in the ass uh uh uh uh..."<br /><br />Somehow this prose was very off-putting and a number of readers correctly pointed out that if a hindi lady Indu is being fucked by a hindi servant boy Ishaan when her hindi husband Indrajit is slogging for an Indian firm Infosys, she will more likely say something more appropriate like "Chod mujhe Ishaan! Jorse chodo! Meri jorse gaandmaar ishaan uh uh uh!"<br /><br />This observation struck me as very profound. We must employ hindi monikers at every turn, or atleast when the context clearly calls for their usage. If we don't, who will ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-89902318597938251252011-06-17T12:50:09.081+05:302011-06-17T12:50:09.081+05:30You Should hav said more abt his humor part...as i...You Should hav said more abt his humor part...as in Chupke chupke!!!ayushnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-43278314367442998612010-12-23T01:25:01.624+05:302010-12-23T01:25:01.624+05:30how about the role he played in Johnny Gaddar? One...how about the role he played in Johnny Gaddar? One of his best roles too, I think.Blackbirdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13619284798549858340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-92227503261758992462010-12-21T10:56:14.431+05:302010-12-21T10:56:14.431+05:30Interesting post, Jai. I remember being told that ...Interesting post, Jai. I remember being told that Dharam was the original eye candy in Phool aur paththar - apparently all the women would sigh when he did that shirtless scene. “Thinking woman’s man” – reminds me - have you seen Dillagi which he plays a Sanskrit prof ? I remember it had some charming and funny sequences. Apart from his excellent comic act, I think another facet about his early days was that he exuded an essential goodness. I don’t recall seeing Dharam play a role with a dark side – even when he played the baddie (P aur P, or Yaadon ki Baraat, it always hid a heart of gold) – and this seems to be something he has been exploring only in his old age – his role in J.G, or Apne. In that sense he reminded me a bit of Gregory Peck – whose portrayal of Mengele in Boys from Brazil was so difficult to swallow – the sheer weight of his brand promise made me feel that maybe Mengele wasn’t such a bad guy after all. I don’t think Apne did very well but I found it quite interesting – he played this angry bitter father who is caustic with one son who doesn’t live up to expectations and drives the other son practically to death to fulfil his own dream – I thought it was unusual for a hero like him to comeback with a portrayal of a father who has this monstrous side.Radhikanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-71701773140942130982010-12-19T07:57:10.208+05:302010-12-19T07:57:10.208+05:30Pawan: no, just the IMDB page. Have fixed the link...Pawan: no, just the IMDB page. Have fixed the links now. Thanks.Jabberwockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10210195396120573794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-28340842124155357472010-12-18T23:59:53.942+05:302010-12-18T23:59:53.942+05:30Nice to see that someone remembers Hathyar. I saw ...Nice to see that someone remembers Hathyar. I saw that movie when I was fourteen. And suddenly, I realized that cinema could be much much more than the regular maar dhaad films that I loved. Btw, your link there is broken. Does that link to a review?pawannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-89611005339286309562010-12-17T23:34:18.025+05:302010-12-17T23:34:18.025+05:30A devout "Amen" to this post. I am happy...A devout "Amen" to this post. I am happy to include myself in the "serious woman" fan club, and I think it is true. He played a huge variety of roles with such ease that nobody gives him due credit for his versatility.<br /><br />Plus, he is just so.very.handsome. To die for.memsaabhttp://memsaabstory.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-68229378649635716812010-12-17T18:31:05.601+05:302010-12-17T18:31:05.601+05:30Check out our super designer t-shirt on Basanti at...Check out our super designer t-shirt on Basanti at http://www.teesort.com/teesort-winner-basanti-sholay-t-shirt.htmUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11582922333806636402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-34555415277650661362010-12-17T15:08:36.752+05:302010-12-17T15:08:36.752+05:30One thing I couldn't find space for in this po...One thing I couldn't find space for in this post: the Amitabh-Dharmendra chemistry, which was always so awesome. <i>Sholay</i> and <i>Chupke Chupke</i>, of course, were wonderful films that showcased it brilliantly, but in even something as crappy as <i>Ram Balram</i> you got the sense that they really liked working together. And that AB didn't think of Dharmendra as a rival or a threat (unlike Vinod Khanna, Shatrughan Sinha and even Shashi K) - the age difference between the two was quite substantial to begin with, and by the time AB became a superstar Dharmendra wasn't really part of the "rat race". Wish they had done just a couple more really good films together.Jabberwockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10210195396120573794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-13411128526642298992010-12-17T15:03:17.589+05:302010-12-17T15:03:17.589+05:30Diptakirti: yes, the Amar Akbar Anthony fight did ...Diptakirti: yes, the <i>Amar Akbar Anthony</i> fight did occur to me, but if I recall right, that scene was a lighthearted one - with the genial Anthony being almost deferential towards the no-nonsense policeman (who was also a good cop). Not really a serious fight scene.<br /><br /><i>Trishul - He has to settle for a draw with Shatrughan Sinha, who was clearly the 'bad guy' till that scene.</i><br /><br />You're talking about <i>Kaala Patthar</i>, I think? But yes, <i>Trishul</i> did have one of the most hilarious of fight scenes between two leading men, when AB and Shashi Kapoor got to exchange exactly the same number of punches - you get the impression it took days to edit that scene so it came out just right!Jabberwockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10210195396120573794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-16107554678441298282010-12-17T14:53:05.290+05:302010-12-17T14:53:05.290+05:30I first discovered Dharmendra's non-kutte side...I first discovered Dharmendra's non-kutte side when I watched Bandini in a Bimal Roy festival. He was quite awesome there as a quiet doctor.aandthirtyeightshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00644980602293705853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-39192628482424566032010-12-17T14:46:50.936+05:302010-12-17T14:46:50.936+05:30As usual, a thoughtful and enjoyable post.
Just ...As usual, a thoughtful and enjoyable post. <br /><br />Just one crib: AB did get pummeled, even at the peak of his superstardom. <br />Amar Akbar Anthony - Vinod Khanna beats him senseless. <br />Trishul - He has to settle for a draw with Shatrughan Sinha, who was clearly the 'bad guy' till that scene.<br /><br />But yes, even a draw with Dharmendra would have been very difficult to digest!Diptakirti Chaudhurihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00296396674255584499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-26975599439303756972010-12-17T13:42:03.994+05:302010-12-17T13:42:03.994+05:30I loved his performance in the Sriram Raghavan cri...I loved his performance in the Sriram Raghavan crime film - Johnny Gaddar. A Termite-like performance in one of the best Indian films of the past decade I think. It was a very refreshing film very much in the American noir tradition of the 40s and 50s. <i>Manorama, Six Feet Under</i> in contrast, was a stodgy White Elephant work, inspired by a somewhat heavy and inelegant 70s neo-noir.<br /><br />Dharmendra in JG turned in a very effective but understated performance. Seldom has a bad guy's finer characteristics been better depicted. Try contrasting it with Brando's attention grabbing hammy antics in <i>The Godfather</i> - a much overrated presence in an otherwise great film.shrikanthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03898755392584822638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-10110164573983623982010-12-17T13:29:26.945+05:302010-12-17T13:29:26.945+05:30Blogdie: thanks.
Sarada: thanks. I get your gener...Blogdie: thanks.<br /><br />Sarada: thanks. I get your general point about the difference between the quality of his work pre- and post-Sholay, but I don't see why "commercial movies" and "meaningful cinema" should be mutually exclusive categories. And doing <i>Sholay</i> a mistake? No way! If he had retired after doing it, it would still have been worth it!Jabberwockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10210195396120573794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-50456924208541605492010-12-17T12:56:12.859+05:302010-12-17T12:56:12.859+05:30I loved the post. I was struck by the comment on D...I loved the post. I was struck by the comment on Dharmendra being the "thinking woman's" poster boy. I recently saw Dharmendra on TV in one of the KBC episodes. It saddened me to see him trying so hard to re-live the Sholay character on screen in contrast to the quiet dignity of Amitabh Bachchan. But then again he was onscreen for the promotion of his movie Yamla Pagla Deewana and hence, maybe felt the need to be as outrageous as possible.<br /><br />I personally think that Sholay must have been one of the biggest mistakes of Dharmendra's life. Till that time, he had managed to blend in some meaningful cinema with the regular commercial movies. After Sholay it was downhill all the way.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02157329906606402078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-33885435436390832822010-12-17T11:38:51.161+05:302010-12-17T11:38:51.161+05:30Ohhh what a great commendable performer he is...hi...Ohhh what a great commendable performer he is...his best role is Viru all the way....thnx for a great insight into the world of Paaji :)Blogdiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11685661677743564948noreply@blogger.com