tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post6077083025979264040..comments2024-03-27T14:57:37.031+05:30Comments on Jabberwock: In praise of GulzarJabberwockhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10210195396120573794noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-79839447113343433342015-03-30T11:30:20.444+05:302015-03-30T11:30:20.444+05:30Very good piece on Gulzar, Jai. As you said, he is...Very good piece on Gulzar, Jai. As you said, he is naughty. I am not sure if this is the reason that some of his later work seems so fresh, so young. I was watching few songs of Maachis. The writing and even the camera work is not of an old artist in his 60s. It is very fresh. Even after close to 20 years of its release, the camera work, lighting are refreshing in Maachis. Surprisingly, Gulzar's 80s work seem dated technically. But, yeah, he is an great artist.Pessimist Foolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06057153008708242962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-47081906802934571192015-03-30T08:31:51.808+05:302015-03-30T08:31:51.808+05:30Gulzar told me about the Raza comment a couple of ...Gulzar told me about the Raza comment a couple of years ago. Possibly it was said facetiously, or at least in banter, but Gulzar did seem to be saying that by his standards, Raza was a bit of a purist.<br /><br />Yes, he did mention the Mera Kuch Samaan anecdote during the session too.<br /><br />I didn't mean the break in narrative logic as a negative comment, btw. The celebration of "realism", as so often happens these days, can be quite tedious.Jabberwockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10210195396120573794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1153836549498817272015-03-30T08:22:22.532+05:302015-03-30T08:22:22.532+05:30Do you have a reference for the Rahi Masoom Raza c...Do you have a reference for the Rahi Masoom Raza comment ? Rahi Saahib was an accomplished poet and obtuse metaphors of that kind should hardly appear out of note to his ears. Maybe he said it facetiously.<br />I remember reading that RD Burman told Gulzar on reading mera kuch samaan that he was worried next time Gulzaar could hand him a newspaper heading and ask him to compose it!<br />I kind of have a different way of looking at the Aandhi songs. Yes, the characters may not have said it aloud in the prose segments, but it is quite believable that they do have the gravitas to think , introspect in that language. So, for me, it was not a break in logic as such. Bhiku Mhatre sang in the words he probably thinks \ talks , so thats ok too.<br />For me, the thing I like most about Gulzar is the richness of his metaphors. Even a seemingly innocuous song like "Chhor aaye hum wo galiyaan" has some layered metaphors, that may not present themselves on the first hearing of the song. His songs are a veritable treasure hunt and I find it enjoyable to think why he used the words he did <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Rahulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08600228969911790479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-41155583221254136702015-03-28T08:07:54.641+05:302015-03-28T08:07:54.641+05:30Thanks! Will take a look.Thanks! Will take a look.Jabberwockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10210195396120573794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-11313332475773891902015-03-28T07:53:03.762+05:302015-03-28T07:53:03.762+05:30Still writing for a bunch of them, as I always hav...Still writing for a bunch of them, as I always have been.Jabberwockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10210195396120573794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-39650223228752094212015-03-28T07:52:36.616+05:302015-03-28T07:52:36.616+05:30I do believe that we need both
Yes. I discuss thi...<i>I do believe that we need both</i><br /><br />Yes. I discuss this often with friends - that it's a pity that many of today's directors and writers have learnt to become embarrassed about earlier modes of storytelling in our cinema.Jabberwockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10210195396120573794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-10815204782050946332015-03-28T04:18:01.538+05:302015-03-28T04:18:01.538+05:30So, which publication would you be writing for, no...So, which publication would you be writing for, now? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-79362281064354457062015-03-28T01:15:27.417+05:302015-03-28T01:15:27.417+05:30Oops wrote a comment and it disappeared!
Loved re...Oops wrote a comment and it disappeared!<br /><br />Loved reading the piece Jai. I am a fan and admirer of Gulzar, of course because of his old gems but especially due to his versatility which gives us poetry even in "Beedi jalai le". Or this song in Bunty and Babli "Oh ho zaara raasta to do, thoda sa badal chakhna hai".<br /><br />I also liked how you compared the lyrics of old and contemporary cinema:"lines that the same characters would certainly not have used in the “prose” segments of the film...It was understood at the time that a song marked a break in narrative space and logic." vs "...the need to “realistically” integrate songs with narrative". I do believe that we need both, so that though the songs are the voice and language of the players, we also do not lose out the beauty of metaphors and poetry in film music.Aparnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17465535925292456208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-66787018110847270962015-03-28T00:44:19.803+05:302015-03-28T00:44:19.803+05:30I would recommend you to watch Gulzaar saab's ...I would recommend you to watch Gulzaar saab's interview on a show called Guftagoo on Rajya sabha Tv if you haven't.<br />It's the best interview of Gulzaar saab I know of.<br />Here's the link<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJQ0sh-BU_8<br /><br />Thespian Accountanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00224608506340197528noreply@blogger.com