tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post115252081997232723..comments2024-03-29T12:59:00.612+05:30Comments on Jabberwock: Perceptions part 2Jabberwockhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10210195396120573794noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152852033912633802006-07-14T10:10:00.000+05:302006-07-14T10:10:00.000+05:30Boss, you are a prince among men...but even you ne...Boss, you are a prince among men...but even you need friends like this. I agree with him--as we like to say--200 percent. He is right about Zidane and, more than that, alas, about us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152777822497469782006-07-13T13:33:00.000+05:302006-07-13T13:33:00.000+05:30I would've dozed off during the extra-time if not ...I would've dozed off during the extra-time if not for the timely butt. The match was better than I expected though. It's sad when two european teams meet in the finals. Predictably, Henry was the only exciting striker around.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152773457752171562006-07-13T12:20:00.000+05:302006-07-13T12:20:00.000+05:30Chlormint queries, mother-insults, sister-jibes, t...Chlormint queries, mother-insults, sister-jibes, this and that and this and that - simply ridiculous.<BR/><BR/>We might think that we're having the most fun out of Zidane's folly, but you should see the French. People say they dont have a sense of humor. This should prove them wrong.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://my-punching-bag.blogspot.com/2006/07/doing-zizou.html" REL="nofollow"><BR/>Doing The Zizou!</A>Confused n Baffledhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17054418501312922161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152767959574397182006-07-13T10:49:00.000+05:302006-07-13T10:49:00.000+05:30An hilarious sms doing the rounds:The mystery is f...An hilarious sms doing the rounds:<BR/><BR/>The mystery is finally solved.<BR/><BR/>Materazzi asked Zindane, "bhai, hum chlor mint kyo kaate hain?"<BR/><BR/>CRASH! BANG! BOOM!Shyam Tallamrajuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13896444662472276247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152683772059105672006-07-12T11:26:00.000+05:302006-07-12T11:26:00.000+05:30Stumbled on this post and liked your analysis of i...Stumbled on this post and liked your analysis of it. Gives a nice feeling of having the license to think in terms of ctegory 3! I guess I belong in the middle-of-the road category too. You might want to read the last para of my latest post, which is a 'destiny' perspective on the whole thing. Cliched it may be, but it's a perspective all the same.Suhashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13529331211611984893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152624930928748032006-07-11T19:05:00.000+05:302006-07-11T19:05:00.000+05:30More on the Homeric connection: Bernard-Levy shoul...More on the Homeric connection: Bernard-Levy should read his Iliad more carefully. If this really was a Homeric incident, then the real reason for the head butt would be that Hera was on the Italian's side and Zeus made a deal with her saying that he would let Zidane play and win all the glory through the tournament (plus the golden bootlace or whatever it was he won) and then make him lose it all in the final moments to satisfy her and Aphrodite and Poseidon. And Zidane wouldn't be head butting to prove himself human all too human, he would be acting out of hubris - the belief that he was invincible and that everything was permitted him, forgetting that he was still mortal and could be red-carded. <BR/><BR/>Bernard Levy's much closer to the truth when he picks on Dostoyevsky. You can imagine Raskolnikov sitting in the wings and nodding his head in understanding.Falstaffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09791162324919462038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152617221461248722006-07-11T16:57:00.000+05:302006-07-11T16:57:00.000+05:30Bernard Levy settles the Homeric connection of Zid...Bernard Levy settles the Homeric connection of Zidane's headbutt really well <A HREF="http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008636" REL="nofollow">here.</A><BR/><BR/><I>Achilles had his heel. Zidane will have had his--this magnificent and rebellious head that brought him, suddenly, back into the ranks of his human brothers. <BR/><BR/></I>Alokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12947383354732747209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152613482817010262006-07-11T15:54:00.000+05:302006-07-11T15:54:00.000+05:30The only lesson to be learnt is that there are no ...The only lesson to be learnt is that there are no lessons and life is meaningless. <BR/><BR/>As a final personal aside: if I ever got that close to Zizou I would certainly try to touch his nipple. (Heterosexuality quotient -3 and sinking.)Jabberwockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10210195396120573794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152612403733507622006-07-11T15:36:00.000+05:302006-07-11T15:36:00.000+05:30The lesson to be learned from all this is that lip...The lesson to be learned from all this is that lip-reading is a sham.Cheshire Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07463645065346922684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152612051394348312006-07-11T15:30:00.000+05:302006-07-11T15:30:00.000+05:30Two Lessons From WC 2006 1. Cheats always prosper....Two Lessons From WC 2006 <BR/>1. Cheats always prosper. The most polished cheats won. <BR/>2. You have to be a fucking idiot to be provoked into physical reactions when that is exactly what the other guy is hoping for. ZZ put his team into a hole because of his anger management issues. He almost certainly lost out on major financial bonuses which would have come the french team's way in the event of their winning. <BR/><BR/>He could have controlled himself, tried to win the match and then slugged MM afterwards or humiliated him publicly with reference to the incident. <BR/><BR/>DDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152608992072239612006-07-11T14:39:00.000+05:302006-07-11T14:39:00.000+05:30Swati: no problem about the "spamming", but one ca...Swati: no problem about the "spamming", but one can easily make the argument (as Falstaff does <A HREF="http://2x3x7.blogspot.com/2006/07/ifs-and-butts.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>) that <I>no matter what Materazzi said</I> (racial insult, family-directed abuse, whatever), ZZ shouldn't have responded to something verbal with physical violence. It's one of the unsaid rules of living in a civilised society (personally I'm not sure that we are, and I'm always pleased on some level when I see people's primal sides come to the surface - but oh well...)<BR/><BR/>I'm happy to leave it at this: ZZ had a moment of madness (call it red mist, call it the dark side of being a sporting genius) and did something that he himself in all probability regretted just a couple of seconds after it was done. He got red-carded for it, as he should have. The matter should end there. My problem is with people getting sanctimonious and judgemental about the whole thing - especially these high-horsed remarks about how this incident will dwarf all the good things about his career. That's plain nonsense, especially since most of it comes from people who will themselves never achieve at anywhere near the level that this guy has (at whatever they are good at).Jabberwockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10210195396120573794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152607598238181042006-07-11T14:16:00.000+05:302006-07-11T14:16:00.000+05:30My reaction turned out to be a mix of two and thre...My reaction turned out to be a mix of two and three...superlative headbutt that...my only regret was the headbutt was to Materazzi's chest and not his face so as to cause a broken nose...<BR/>(Btw,didnt Figo's hadbutt go unpunished??)<BR/><BR/>J'ock - thank you endorsing Zidanes hotness..heheheSzerelemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17911190230851186924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152606237173366742006-07-11T13:53:00.000+05:302006-07-11T13:53:00.000+05:30Sorry, Jai, I'm spamming your comment box like cra...Sorry, Jai, I'm spamming your comment box like crazy, but one more and then I'm off. This is fresh off the press, Materazzi's agent gave a statement:<BR/><BR/>"Speaking to his English agents, First Artist, the Italian defender was adamant that his remarks were not designed to get Zidane sent off.<BR/><BR/>Materazzi: I didn't call him a terrorist<BR/><BR/>Materazzi admitted that he tweaked the France captain's nipple as they clashed in extra time. After which, it is alleged Zidane responded: "If you want my shirt so much, you can f****** have it after the game."<BR/><BR/>The Italian said that he then replied: "I'd rather have the shirt off your woman," a supposed reference to the Frenchman's wife Veronique.<BR/><BR/>Materazzi's agent Phil Smith said: "There was no way Marco meant to cause such a reaction.<BR/><BR/>"It was just a typical innocuous football insult commonplace in every game. Marco is adamant he didn't call Zidane a terrorist. "<BR/><BR/>Read the rest here:<BR/><BR/>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/worldcup2006.html?in_article_id=395065&in_page_id=1892thalassa_mikrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01942716364297839680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152602996717785332006-07-11T12:59:00.000+05:302006-07-11T12:59:00.000+05:30This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.thalassa_mikrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01942716364297839680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152602862911284852006-07-11T12:57:00.000+05:302006-07-11T12:57:00.000+05:30Sriram, ITV as in ITV in the UK? Here's another ve...Sriram, ITV as in ITV in the UK? Here's another version, which apparently might be closer to the truth. <BR/><BR/>http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/front/2006/0711/4284085450HM1OFFLEAD.html<BR/><BR/>"The Brazilian newspaper Globo showed the video to three deaf and mute teenagers who are skilled at lip-reading. They believe Materazzi said, "Tua sorella รจ una puttana" (your sister is a prostitute), followed by an obscene gesture. The French website Sport.fr said the latter version was confirmed by a source close to Zidane."<BR/><BR/>But if Materazzi said that, then does Zidane understand Italian? I know he speaks Spanish, and did spend time in Juventus, so perhaps he does understand enough. <BR/><BR/>Anyway, there are several alternative insults in the running, including one where Materazzi wishes death on Zidane's family. The only one Materazzi's denied explicitly is the "dirty terrorist" one. <BR/><BR/>If he said any of these things, he deserved a less elegant headbutt than the one Zidane delivered.thalassa_mikrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01942716364297839680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152598942179324122006-07-11T11:52:00.000+05:302006-07-11T11:52:00.000+05:30I call for nation-wide Pizza Strike.Zidane I belie...I call for nation-wide Pizza Strike.<BR/><BR/>Zidane I believe in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152595923607184212006-07-11T11:02:00.000+05:302006-07-11T11:02:00.000+05:30Oh! Perfect !I purfectly belong to first category ...Oh! Perfect !<BR/>I purfectly belong to first category (except that i am not from calcutta). Especially that I wanted Italy to win bcoz France beat Brazil ! He he!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152592785195191432006-07-11T10:09:00.000+05:302006-07-11T10:09:00.000+05:30j'ock (sorry that was me in the previous comment)C...j'ock (sorry that was me in the previous comment)<BR/><BR/>Can I marry you? Anyone but anyone who stands up for the delectable Zidane deserves at least a proposal of marriage. <BR/><BR/>n!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152557166575136912006-07-11T00:16:00.000+05:302006-07-11T00:16:00.000+05:30Zidane plays fair, he doesn't use his hands...Zidane plays fair, he doesn't use his hands...Cheshire Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07463645065346922684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152555591591035902006-07-10T23:49:00.000+05:302006-07-10T23:49:00.000+05:30Hey! You say anything bad about Troy and I'll hunt...Hey! You say anything bad about <I>Troy</I> and I'll hunt you down (since we're in the same city now), head-butt you twice, tie you to the underside of my car and drag you around India Gate seven times. <BR/><BR/>And Zidane can play anything he wants to, even my heartstrings (last remnants of heterosexuality dissipate)Jabberwockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10210195396120573794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152554638730284062006-07-10T23:33:00.000+05:302006-07-10T23:33:00.000+05:30Sure, but can Zidane play the Harp? Leaving aside ...Sure, but can Zidane play the Harp? <BR/><BR/>Leaving aside your (deplorable) taste in men, how Homeric an episode in isn't a function of how good looking the key protagonist is (outside of execrable Brad Pitt movies). If this really had been Homeric then Zidane would have chased this Materazzi guy around the football field some 7 times and THEN head-butted him. And Materazzi wouldn't just have flopped to the ground and jumped blithely up again, his limbs would have been unstrung and his football uniform would have clanged down upon him and darkness would have shaded his eyes. This whole encounter is way too bloodless and civilised for Homer.Falstaffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09791162324919462038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152546374486094232006-07-10T21:16:00.000+05:302006-07-10T21:16:00.000+05:30Falstaff: have to say (while clinging desperately ...Falstaff: have to say (while clinging desperately to my heterosexuality) that Zidane is a lot hotter than Harpo in that brooding, intense way. Definitely more Homeric than Marxist.Jabberwockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10210195396120573794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152545373818681512006-07-10T20:59:00.000+05:302006-07-10T20:59:00.000+05:30I think everyone, including your friend, is missin...I think everyone, including your friend, is missing the comic significance of Zidane's head-butt. This is not Homeric tragedy, this is bathos at its finest. Can't you just picture the Marx brothers movie where the final football match is being played, the game is down to its final moments, victory and defeat hang in balance - so what does Harpo do? He knocks his opponent down by head-butting him! Too bad that the referee didn't have more of a sense of humour. People need to stop taking football so seriously.<BR/><BR/>Personally, I think Zidane should forget football and other such children's games and move on to real sport - like bull-fighting for instance. Wouldn't it be fun watching him do these head-butts against a red-cloaked matador with a sword?Falstaffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09791162324919462038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152544377206590352006-07-10T20:42:00.000+05:302006-07-10T20:42:00.000+05:30Pankaj: nope, not YB. This was Shougat - and I ass...Pankaj: nope, not YB. This was Shougat - and I assure you, my feeble transcription doesn't begin to capture the way he said what he said. I probably missed out a few gems too.<BR/><BR/>LOL at Manmohan Singh and Bengal.Jabberwockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10210195396120573794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8204542.post-1152542979774839092006-07-10T20:19:00.000+05:302006-07-10T20:19:00.000+05:30I have quoth you without permission. And now will ...I have quoth you without permission. And now will blithely thank.<BR/>Apologies for being cheeky<BR/>:D<BR/>here,if you want to check.<BR/>http://nrambles.blogspot.com/2006/07/omigosh.htmlnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18200663835554850461noreply@blogger.com